Comments on: but the film is a saddening bore/for she’s lived it ten times or more http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/ a blog about things Tue, 02 Aug 2011 06:31:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Adrien http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Adrien Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:41:34 +0000 http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/#comment-290 Another reason for the dated nature of top ten lists might be that it's harder to judge whether recent films are going to be classic in the sense that I love this film it's brilliant. But two or three viewing down the years you might not be so enthusiastic. Generally I agre tho' I reckon film critics are mostly fuddy-duddy and/or cowardly. <i>Fight Club</i> is brilliant. Along with <i>Amores Perros</i> a definete classic. Another reason for the dated nature of top ten lists might be that it’s harder to judge whether recent films are going to be classic in the sense that I love this film it’s brilliant. But two or three viewing down the years you might not be so enthusiastic.

Generally I agre tho’ I reckon film critics are mostly fuddy-duddy and/or cowardly.

Fight Club is brilliant. Along with Amores Perros a definete classic.

]]> By: Paul http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Paul Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:48:38 +0000 http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/#comment-182 When you read the Ebert Fight Club review, he seems to half understand the point of the film, but be so overwhelmed by the violence and aggression of the whole concept that it doesn't touch him in any visceral way. I wonder if the reason he can accept the violence in Raging Bull (e.g. R de Niro being punched in the already-bruised eye socket and his skin just bursting and spraying blood all over the place) but not in Fight Club is because he can't relate to the motivations of Jack/Tyler but he can relate to the internal conflict of Jake la Motta somehow? I.e. he's never struggled in a boring office job with no hope of escape or spiritual fulfillment, so he doesn't relate to someone getting a kick out of being punched in the face just to feel something primal. Starship Troopers is not a film, it's a test. Only the elect will understand its true genius and be welcomed into the Heinlen Kingdom of Heaven/Klendathu. Totally agree about the impact a film has on the individual being the main thing - which is why indy films are often so awesome despite being on 1/1000th the budget of Titanic or whatever. When you read the Ebert Fight Club review, he seems to half understand the point of the film, but be so overwhelmed by the violence and aggression of the whole concept that it doesn’t touch him in any visceral way. I wonder if the reason he can accept the violence in Raging Bull (e.g. R de Niro being punched in the already-bruised eye socket and his skin just bursting and spraying blood all over the place) but not in Fight Club is because he can’t relate to the motivations of Jack/Tyler but he can relate to the internal conflict of Jake la Motta somehow? I.e. he’s never struggled in a boring office job with no hope of escape or spiritual fulfillment, so he doesn’t relate to someone getting a kick out of being punched in the face just to feel something primal.

Starship Troopers is not a film, it’s a test. Only the elect will understand its true genius and be welcomed into the Heinlen Kingdom of Heaven/Klendathu.

Totally agree about the impact a film has on the individual being the main thing – which is why indy films are often so awesome despite being on 1/1000th the budget of Titanic or whatever.

]]> By: riya http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/comment-page-1/#comment-181 riya Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:33:11 +0000 http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/02/23/but-the-film-is-a-saddening-borefor-shes-lived-it-ten-times-or-more/#comment-181 It would be interesting to look at what makes a great film - I am sure that what Leonard Maltin (nose wrinkle) thinks makes a great film and what I think makes a great film are an entirely different set of criteria. But what are the criteria? Script, acting, cinematography, sure (yawn) but what makes you really love a film is your own reaction to it and how deeply it has imprinted itself on you. I think it is less technical than visceral. I bet Starship Troopers is not in Leonard's Top 100, but I know it's on both yours and mine....... ;) It would be interesting to look at what makes a great film – I am sure that what Leonard Maltin (nose wrinkle) thinks makes a great film and what I think makes a great film are an entirely different set of criteria. But what are the criteria? Script, acting, cinematography, sure (yawn) but what makes you really love a film is your own reaction to it and how deeply it has imprinted itself on you. I think it is less technical than visceral. I bet Starship Troopers is not in Leonard’s Top 100, but I know it’s on both yours and mine……. ;)

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