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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.intelligentdesign.com.au/blog/2007/04/11/oh-the-history-books-tell-it-they-tell-it-so-well/comment-page-1/#comment-4117</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I found that quote very interesting too.  It&#039;s a shame that we can&#039;t somehow &#039;educate&#039; each of us about this type of thing, it would be incredibly empowering for people - and it was interesting how many of the participants said the experience was in some way positive once they understood what they had been through.  

It was very interesting to read about the later experiments too - when they had two other people also supposedly administering the electric shocks, but in reality accomplices of the researchers, those people&#039;s actions had a strong influence on how the test subject behaved.  

I suppose it cuts both ways, but it&#039;s frightening to see how much more powerful authority and the desire to conform are than an individual&#039;s moral compass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I found that quote very interesting too.  It&#8217;s a shame that we can&#8217;t somehow &#8216;educate&#8217; each of us about this type of thing, it would be incredibly empowering for people &#8211; and it was interesting how many of the participants said the experience was in some way positive once they understood what they had been through.  </p>
<p>It was very interesting to read about the later experiments too &#8211; when they had two other people also supposedly administering the electric shocks, but in reality accomplices of the researchers, those people&#8217;s actions had a strong influence on how the test subject behaved.  </p>
<p>I suppose it cuts both ways, but it&#8217;s frightening to see how much more powerful authority and the desire to conform are than an individual&#8217;s moral compass.</p>
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		<title>By: KO</title>
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		<dc:creator>KO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Milgram wiki-entry, I found this excerpt from a letter written back to Milgram very interesting, and in a way, a little moving:

&lt;blockquote&gt;While I was a subject [participant] in 1964, though I believed that I was hurting someone, I was totally unaware of why I was doing so. Few people ever realize when they are acting according to their own beliefs and when they are meekly submitting to authority. ... To permit myself to be drafted with the understanding that I am submitting to authority&#039;s demand to do something very wrong would make me frightened of myself. ... I am fully prepared to go to jail if I am not granted Conscientious Objector status. Indeed, it is the only course I could take to be faithful to what I believe. My only hope is that members of my board act equally according to their conscience...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Milgram wiki-entry, I found this excerpt from a letter written back to Milgram very interesting, and in a way, a little moving:</p>
<blockquote><p>While I was a subject [participant] in 1964, though I believed that I was hurting someone, I was totally unaware of why I was doing so. Few people ever realize when they are acting according to their own beliefs and when they are meekly submitting to authority. &#8230; To permit myself to be drafted with the understanding that I am submitting to authority&#8217;s demand to do something very wrong would make me frightened of myself. &#8230; I am fully prepared to go to jail if I am not granted Conscientious Objector status. Indeed, it is the only course I could take to be faithful to what I believe. My only hope is that members of my board act equally according to their conscience&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that Milgram experiment is extremely disturbing.  It&#039;s hard to fathom that people, under no compulsion to either do it or even to stay other than that someone is an &quot;authority figure&quot; who they have just met, would be prepared to seriously harm another person for that long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that Milgram experiment is extremely disturbing.  It&#8217;s hard to fathom that people, under no compulsion to either do it or even to stay other than that someone is an &#8220;authority figure&#8221; who they have just met, would be prepared to seriously harm another person for that long.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That last method of teaching kids about the Holocaust reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stanford prison experiment&lt;/a&gt; where they divided students into &quot;prisoners&quot; and &quot;guards&quot;, as well as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Milgram experiment&lt;/a&gt;, where they got volunteers to &quot;electrocute&quot; people. Dangerous stuff to be playing around with, if you ask me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last method of teaching kids about the Holocaust reminds me of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment" rel="nofollow">Stanford prison experiment</a> where they divided students into &#8220;prisoners&#8221; and &#8220;guards&#8221;, as well as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment" rel="nofollow">Milgram experiment</a>, where they got volunteers to &#8220;electrocute&#8221; people. Dangerous stuff to be playing around with, if you ask me!</p>
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